Tom Torero Texting A-Z

Strap yourselves in for a lengthy post showing an entire text flow with a girl in Russia from meeting her to sleeping with her. It gives you a good overview of the way I work leads over the timeframe of a week using text pings, photo pings and audio pings.

Because it’s Russia the usual sharp witty banter of Europe is replaced with more stoical comfort. I’m playing the two (or even three) date model there so the pinging is slower. I’m also building a harem this year meaning that it’s not just a one-hit-wonder scenario. You’ll see elements of deep conversion employed in the texting to keep girls around.

Look out for the usual texting rules about mirroring investment, matching emoticons and timings, plus avoiding neediness. If you’re still struggling with the basics of text game then watch this for a reminder.

The post is long and the text flow complete because I wanted guys to see the amount of work typically needed to take a girl from start to finish. Some guys still presume it’s a Tinder style “Wanna smash?” level of messaging when in reality it’s a lot of focussed effort each day.

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I stop this girl on Thursday 7th March in Russia on a snowy street mid-afternoon:

After the initial approach around 16:00 I take her on an instant date to a coffee shop. She speaks almost no English so we’re using Google Translate on our phones to communicate.

The first Tom & Jerry photo is sent during that i-date when we’re exchanging WhatsApp numbers. This cat-and-mouse theme will be prominent throughout the texting and dating.

Later that evening I send the official feeler message to see if she’ll reply. It’s in Russian because of her nervousness with English. I ask her if she bought a new book. Her reply tells me it’s a solid number and that she wants to chat. The half bracket “)” is a Russian smily face. She’s used Google Translate again to respond.

I reply with a photo ping from my balcony. It’s rapport building but also gently seeding a future date (tea) and a future bounce (to my place).

I ask her what she’s up to that evening to get a ping-pong texting rally going for momentum. This saves a lot of scattered texting in future days when the initial energy has fizzled out.

Note how I’m teasing her about being a boring girl who just watches TV soap operas with the old lady (“babushka“) she lives with. This will be a subtle qualification routine I use throughout the texting and dating.

I begin to introduce the theme of adventure and risk taking with my ping about the climbing documentary. From our i-date earlier that day I know she loves the outdoors and wilderness travel. This theme of being “wild” and “free” is very useful for a player, as you’ll see later.

My photo ping and caption about “mountain adventures” is seeding a van trip with her later in the year (I’d already mentioned my van travels on the i-date). It’s also emphasising the carefree, risk-taking hobo vibes that a player needs to stress. See how she plays along. She’s craving such wild adventures and sends me a handful of photos from her past travels:

I send her photos back from my van travels and adventures, again to build not only rapport but to seed future trips with her. Once a girl has bought in to the whole concept of the van then it makes everything much easier down the line.

In Russian she replies “Damn, that’s very cool!!!” My pinging work for night is done so we end things there. She’ll go to sleep with her head full of thoughts about the British man who stopped her on the street, took her for an i-date and told her about mountain adventures.

The following day just after 11am I ping her with “Fun in the lab?” as she’s a laboratory assistant at a university. She replies with a selfie for me from the lab, a big green light…

I reply with a selfie of me (good to jog her memory once the initial magic of the street approach is over). The caption says “black again” as a throwback reference to us joking on the i-date about being metal-heads and closet goths.

She’s replying quickly and asking me questions (a sign she wants the chat to continue) so I know that the fish is on the hook and it’s now my job to propose a date request. Once you’ve got compliance you have to escalate. Just lots of chatting back and forth over messenger would be the opposite.

I dip my toe in the water for a date request by asking “Are you working this weekend?” She tells me that Sunday is her day off and asks if I’m free…

Our alternating Russian-English is another example of mirroring investment. It’s a pain in the ass to copy-paste sentences from Google Translate back into WhatsApp so we’re both shouldering the burden.

I reply saying “Sunday for whiskey and melancholic music” as callbacks to what we discussed on the i-date about both liking whiskey and her depressing taste in music (Finnish metal and Marilyn Manson).

She replies with qualifying herself that she’s “not so melancholic” and that she “loves fun too,” both of which are more green lights. Getting a girl to jump out of a box you put her in is what playful qualification is all about.

I send her a cheeky GIF of Marilyn Manson clapping and winking, again as more callback to our i-date. Using these animated pings sparingly is a powerful technique if you can find a suitably appropriate one from Google images.

Later that day before midnight I see that she’s online so I tentatively ping her again to see if she’ll bite. It’s effective to get her going to sleep thinking of me. She tells me she’s going to bed. I say goodnight in Russian and she replies positively:

It’s now Saturday, two days after I’d daygamed her, so I had one more day of pinging to go before the planned Sunday date. She pinged me first that morning (a green light) and my photo ping was something creative back.

Early in the afternoon the snow clears and the sun comes out. She messages me to celebrate:

I reply with a photo ping and then roll off. She photo pings that evening continuing the Tom & Jerry theme. Note that I haven’t seemed overly keen with details for Sunday’s date, just presuming it’s going to happen. I send her a teasing Tom & Jerry GIF back:

Sunday morning she pings me first, I reply and then go for the date request by suggesting the venue and time. My best hit rate in Russia has been the two date model but still doing two venues on the first date and walking her past my front door is still the rule for me.

She shifts things to 13:00 but that’s not any consequential frame control so I go with it:

The first date is a coffee in the first venue sitting next to each other on a sofa and her leaning in on me. From there we go to a second venue for a beer where we again sit next to each other. After that I walk her towards the metro, passing my front door and suggesting she come in for a smoke on the balcony. She predictably declines and that is that.

Early evening she pings me wilderness photos of wild Kamchatka in eastern Russia which we’d been discussing. A green light that she was up for the next date.

I reply with my own photo ping of wild adventures, again hinting at the theme of van life:

Later that evening she wishes me goodnight, and I once again use the grandmother tease:

The photos of herself she sends me are another green light for investment:

She’s pinging solidly and I know it’s just a case of keeping things ticking over with regular contact until I can get her out on a second date.

I ignore her negativity and let her further invest by not replying immediately. She mentions my travel videos that I gave her a link for on the first date (another good “remote DHV” trick to keep you in her mind).

She knows I’m going back to Moscow for a few days which helps because of the “power of the push”

I date request for Tuesday evening, this time making the seeding clear for a bounce home with a video clip ping of my balcony.

The “cigar and whiskey” line is another clear prompt for the bounce home. She then has a minor emotional wobble about only being able to talk through Google Translate.

My response is again light-hearted with a Harry Potter GIF and the caption “Google Magic”

I ask her in Russian what time she finishes work and she says 18:00, so I set up the second date logistics with a bar 5 minutes from my place.

I wish her goodnight with a quick evening audio ping (low and slow voice to get her thinking of me before bed) and she wishes me goodnight too.

The next day I’ve checked to see if she’s still on for that evening with a morning ping and her further investment tells me that the date is happening.

The photo ping of whiskey solidifies that fact she’s coming back to mine after the first venue.

The second date goes to plan, as you’ll see on the documentary. In the bar we’re sitting next to each other, my arm around her, playing with each other’s hands. She won’t kiss me in public but I sense that the bounce is on after a couple of beers.

In the snow we walk outside for a smoke then to my front door. There’s a slight hesitation as I open the main door but she comes in when I remind her of “whiskey on the balcony.”

Once inside she’s like a cat, taking her time to explore the apartment, smoke on the balcony, sit on the bed, drink whiskey together, watch part of a horror movie on Netflix whilst kissing and cuddling.

Hands wandering over clothes. Then under clothes. Clothes off, then P-in-V and another notch on the belt. Later that evening she sends me a thank you ping – a good sign for her cumming back for more.

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Do you always need that amount of texting to get laid? No, but for a typical Russian daygame scenario with two (or even three) dates then this is normal. To keep plates spinning over time in a harem situation you’re also going to have to have this skill-set in place.

If you’re new to daygame and need the basics of how to text and the common mistakes to avoid then go to my free texting guide

10 thoughts on “Tom Torero Texting A-Z”

  1. Fantastic detail Tom, this is really useful. The way you keep her on the hook without coming across as too keen is great to see. I’d love to see more text flows like this. Big respect to you captain!

  2. Could you write more on deep conversion? I remember the topic on old skool PUA forums. Is it basically the skills of a pimp like Iceberg Slim? I think it would fit well with your harem hustle guide this year.

  3. brilliant, Tom! I enjoy reading this kind of stuff. Does it all come naturally for you after all these years or do you still sometimes think and hesitate to send a specific text or risky ping? It’s like a chess game or poker, really interesting. I feel like sometimes I’m losing credit as some girls don’t get my cocky/funny stuff or irony to break the smalltalk. They are not very playful and easily get offended.

  4. Awesome overview of your texting Tom, would be great to see more, perhaps one you would use in a more Westernized environment like London

  5. I find texting breakdowns extremely useful. Because I get some less practice with this than I do with Street Chat, ( and likewise any real on the Date Breakdown, is more useful as Texting, because that happens even less than the texting).

    Especially as its with a Russian girl, who just don’t seem to appreciate cocky/funny/teasing text, and insome cases that turns them off because they think it is silly/not manly.

  6. Very good tips. I’m just learning to improve my text game. I get numbers easily but tend to get stuck in the text game. Hopefully you have more tips on texting coming up?

  7. Thanks Tom, great and useful post! Just a small tip: you can also install the desktop version of what’s app on your computer, much easier to copy-paste sentences 🙂

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